Comments on: News Round-Up

By: Patrick M

Patrick M — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:48:39 +0000

This is hilarious. Is this a page of atheists ganging up on an agnostic? So much for open mindedness.
I’m absolutely delighted with the Atheist campaign, it really does seem to get the blood flowing. But I confess that I’m a little surprised by the aggressive tone of some of these emails? Surely if God doesn’t exist, Dawkins could afford to be a little more objective. I think ‘Agnostic’ is right, he’s a little too worked up by Christians, not scientific at all. Has anyone read ‘Is God a delusion?’ by Nicky Gumbel? Fascinating read.

By: David L

David L — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:26:43 +0000

…are you saying there could well be a god (or gods) but that you simply choose not to believe it?

Not sure how you read that in to what I wrote, although logic, reason and evidence-based thought are not often high on the agenda for the religiously deluded.

I have no belief that gods exist in exactly the same way I have no belief that fairies, leprechauns, hobbits and flying spaghetti monsters exist. And all for the simple reason: there is no evidence for any of them. Come on – if you’ve ever engaged with an atheist before, you must have been told this.

If you want to believe in your comforting fairy tale, knock yourself out – but the rest of us are fed up with the continual interference of Bronze Age stupidity in our otherwise modern societies.

By: Agnostic

Agnostic — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:00:01 +0000

Nicknick bobick, it must be very comforting to you to believe you have all the answers to life, the universe and everything.

I guess scientists could have avoided spending billions on the Large Hadron Collider if they’d only thought to speak to an atheist first. Most strands of physics these days are theoretical and scientists are spending vast amounts of time and money trying to find some tiny shred of evidence for things like the rather ironically named ‘God particle’.

Science does not yet have all the answers and arguably never will. How you choose to reconcile that with your existence is your choice, as it is those who look to religion. Why can’t we all just get along as friends…..?

By: mumfie

mumfie — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:30:09 +0000

I think it would have been more correct although less catchy to say “There are probably no gods”. That would have made it inclusive.

By: nicknick bobick

nicknick bobick — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:58:44 +0000

Gwyn – you are suffering from what is called “fatwah envy syndrome”. You need to realize that atheists do not believe that ANY gods exist, reardless of what name the followers call them or their prophets. Unlike religions, atheism is all inclusive: There are NO gods… no xian gods; no muslim gods; no hindu gods; no greek gods, etc.

Agnostic – NO! We are not saying there could be gods. We are saying that there is absolutely no evidence for any gods having ever “existed”, so the logical conclusion is that there are none.

By: Agnostic

Agnostic — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:35:50 +0000

David L – so are you saying there could well be a god (or gods) but that you simply choose not to believe it? I guess that’s like me saying the world could be round but I’d rather believe it’s flat because I’ve got a spirit level that tells me the ground I’m standing on is level.

I also agree with Gwyn, why don’t atheists, and Richard Dawkins in particular, go after Muslims? It’s always the Christians because they’re easy targets. Why doesn’t Mr Dawkins go to Iran and argue the non-existence of God with one of the Ayatollahs? Now I’d pay to see that on TV.