There’s just been a very imortant development in the Atheist Bus Campaign. Please read post 849 by clicking on the link!

Many thanks!

“The Atheist’s Guide To Christmas” is the UK’s first atheist charity book, featuring contributions from Richard Dawkins, Derren Brown, Ben Goldacre, Simon Singh, Claire Rayner, David Baddiel, Charlie Brooker and many more. It’s been edited by Ariane Sherine, the creator of the hugely successful Atheist Bus Campaign. It’s out on Oct 1st and all royalties are going to the HIV charity Terrence Higgins Trust. Please pre-order now:

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The Atheist’s Guide is a mix of humorous and poignant contributions from over 40 various prominent atheists. It’ll make an ideal Christmas gift for your atheist friends. Your religious friends will love it too, or, even better, it’ll put them in a foul mood for Xmas! So a win-win situation! More info on the Facebook group:

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Your support will not only maintain the profile of atheism in the UK, it will also help raise funds for the very worthy THT charity. Please note that the contributors, and Ms Sherine, have waived payment for their considerable input into the “Guide”.

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Have a go at reading this http://tinyurl.com/qo5fch

Its on the deconversion of Julian Baggini, the philospher – how he lost his faith.

I’m sure “inside” your faith does make sence. Its only when you become objective that things unravel. If you were to look at your religion in the same way you look at Ganesh – you may find yourself believing in human beings and not a god.

good luck

Good thanks – but I havent contributed as I wasnt persuaded by any of the arguments that you raised. I still hold that “all” religion (from your god to the spirits of the forrests) is created by man – and can be explain by a cognitive theory of mind. I give some good examples – you talk of hope and purpose. Guess what? I dont require any kind of god to feel that I have hope and purpose in my life – but you appear it is necessary?! Why? Look at it a different way – if one morning you felt there was actually no god – do you think you would lose all hope and purpose? Would you not be motivated by your work or your family? Why does there have to be a ‘force’ at work in control of everything? I find that a deeply disturbing idea – and am glad I cant believe in it.

Next, you never successfully argued why your god exists and others do not. What happens when you die and Siva and Brahma are waiting for you – will you repent? The reason you believe in your particular god is because you were born into/live among a christian community. You would ’stand out’ if you claimed a belief in Siva etc !

Finally… and as us non-believers have said many times: please dont pray for us – its slight offensive. We’ve told you we dont agree and dont believe in any gods. By praying you just prove that you ignore what we say – so I ask once again – please dont! Your good wishes are enough – thanks.

Father God, I pray for these guys on this forum. Help them to understand who you are and how much they mean to you. Open their hearts to your love, give them purpose and hope. May they seek you and find you. Thank you that you know them, created them, and love them. Amen.

Cheers guys, all the best – praying for you…

Phil.

Field day is certainly an understatement.

There are many religious communities that believe in spirits and witches – in exactly the same way you ‘know’ your specific god exists. They ‘know’ it too. In fact, every religious community claims they ‘know’ their particular god exists and that the others do not.

Gravity is unseen – but it is damn real. We have evidence. You and your colleagues who believe in spirts and witches – both of you – have none.

“God is with you longing for you to be a part of your life… your creator. ” …….Prove it. Oh wait – do I have to “open my heart”…??